In Episode 58 of Everything’s Not Black & White podcast, featuring Dr. Julie Pham, Julie sits down with hosts Lachandra Baker and Brian J Baker to explore what it actually takes to hold space for multiple truths. This is not as a philosophical exercise, but as a daily leadership practice.
She shares her Rubber Band Rule: Yes, stretch toward others, extend your respect, bridge the gap. But know where your limit is. Snapping doesn’t serve anyone.
She talks about the power of the pause, that small, deliberate moment between receiving something hard and choosing how to respond to it. And why that pause might be the most underrated leadership skill there is.
And she gets personal about her family’s story as Vietnamese refugees, about the history that didn’t make it into the textbooks, and about why leading with curiosity isn’t soft. It’s the hardest thing most of us will ever practice.
If you’ve ever navigated a room where people were holding very different versions of the same truth, this episode was made for you.
What does respect look like to you?
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